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Post by vball4us on Nov 15, 2011 9:44:13 GMT -5
What Would You Do?? A club gave out early offers last summer but did not state what team some of the players would be on, and the early offers did not state who the coaches would be. A Player gave a verbal commit but did not sign anything. This player then tried out at a different club this week and was offered a spot but went to try-outs at her last year's club to see what team she would make there. The club director of last year's club is saying that this player had signed an early committment. What would you do if you were this player's parents?
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Post by vball4us on Nov 21, 2011 13:11:40 GMT -5
The OVR ruled that the player could play for any team she wishes. But club director was still fighting the family, new club and the OVR with releasing the player.
The OVR needs to structure the early offer rules much better if they are going to continue to allow it. Right now it mostly favors the clubs. This past summer clubs were using it to lock in players without telling them what team or who would coach the player and expected that this would keep players from going elsewhere. Parents, if a club is pressuring you to sign an agreement and not giving you info on the team or coach you are signing the agreement for than buyer beware. Would you sign any other contract that does not spell out exactly what you will be paying these large amounts of money for?
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Post by vbfanatic1 on Nov 22, 2011 8:15:23 GMT -5
Great commentary. The practice is wrong and should be addressed.
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Post by SourGrapes on Nov 22, 2011 17:22:57 GMT -5
The OVR ruled that the player could play for any team she wishes. But club director was still fighting the family, new club and the OVR with releasing the player. The OVR needs to structure the early offer rules much better if they are going to continue to allow it. Right now it mostly favors the clubs. This past summer clubs were using it to lock in players without telling them what team or who would coach the player and expected that this would keep players from going elsewhere. Parents, if a club is pressuring you to sign an agreement and not giving you info on the team or coach you are signing the agreement for than buyer beware. Would you sign any other contract that does not spell out exactly what you will be paying these large amounts of money for? Untrue. The OVR stated that the club must disclose the team and coach(es) for any offer letter. Without this, the contract is null and void.
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Post by vball4us on Nov 22, 2011 19:14:07 GMT -5
The OVR ruled that the player could play for any team she wishes. But club director was still fighting the family, new club and the OVR with releasing the player. The OVR needs to structure the early offer rules much better if they are going to continue to allow it. Right now it mostly favors the clubs. This past summer clubs were using it to lock in players without telling them what team or who would coach the player and expected that this would keep players from going elsewhere. Parents, if a club is pressuring you to sign an agreement and not giving you info on the team or coach you are signing the agreement for than buyer beware. Would you sign any other contract that does not spell out exactly what you will be paying these large amounts of money for? Untrue. The OVR stated that the club must disclose the team and coach(es) for any offer letter. Without this, the contract is null and void. That is what I thought but a club director told me that was not the case this past summer, so I went to the OVR site to find the info. It was spelled out the first summer in 2010 but I couldn't find any rules for this past summer. Do you know where we can find them?
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Post by OhioVBall on Nov 22, 2011 21:31:11 GMT -5
I found a document on the OVR website on the Early Offer period. Document has been attached. I think it is very, very vague. It just states that " it is the club's responsibility to provide the athlete's family with all information currently available" The rules were much better in 2010. "Athletes’ Bill of Rights for the Girls’ Early Signing PeriodThe purpose of this document is to assist athletes and their parents/guardians during the girls’ early signing period. It is the responsibility of the club to provide the athlete’s family with all information currently available about their program. It is the responsibility of each athlete and her/his family to become educated about the programs they are considering. It is the responsibility of both parties – club and athlete – to honor every commitment. Beginning June 1, 2011, clubs may extend invitations to their current athletes for the next club season. An athlete and her family has until August 1, 2011, to accept the offer. If the offer is declined, the athlete may still attend the club’s tryout in the fall. If the invitation is accepted, the athlete is bound by the terms of the agreement for the next club season. She may not attend any other tryouts, and her parents/guardians may not sign any other player contracts. Clubs may contact athletes regardless of club affi liation between July 10 and July 31 provided the athletes’ current club seasons are over. During this period, clubs may contact any athlete with information regarding their club: tournament schedule, practice schedules, coaching, etc., as well as the club’s tryout dates for the fall. There is a “dead period” during the interscholastic season, beginning on August 1, 2011. Clubs may not extend any invitations, and athletes may not accept any invitations, until October 28, 2011, for girls ages 10-14 and November 13, 2011, for girls ages 15-18. On those dates, clubs may extend invitations and/or hold tryouts. Athletes and their families will have ten days (until November 9, 2011, for 10s-14s and November 23, 2011, for 15s-18s) to accept or decline invitations and sign contracts. There is no contact between clubs and athletes during the athletes’ high school season. Attachments:
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Post by inthestands on Nov 27, 2011 17:39:06 GMT -5
It seems to me like the key word here is "sign".
The original post said the player verbally committed to something but "signed" nothing.
In my non lawyer opinion, It's a contract issue. Not a coach, team, club or region issue.
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